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10/29/12 12:39 PM (7 years ago)

Is everyone here just bored of Web-Designing?

So I've read quite a few 'Introduce Yourself' posts and many of them are fascinating. They really are. It's very interesting getting to know each other and I hope that we can help you in any way we can.

So from most forums threads, I have noted that a lot of people were bored of Web-design, and thought about App Development. And since coding is something very few of us can do, we had to find somewhere like Buzztouch.

Not being rude, but I think that is the story for many of us. Including Me. I just got bored of Web-designing, I wanted to make iPhone apps. I peeped into Xcode and went into panic attack. Lots of blank pages where lots of code where going to be. So I searched the web and found Buzztouch.
 
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10/29/12 09:36 PM (7 years ago)
Interesting! For me, I had to learn web so I could support my apps. I love making websites almost as much as making apps. You have great design skills, and now I know why!
 
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10/29/12 11:35 PM (7 years ago)
I find that I lack the design ability to make a truly compelling website, but that I can cobble something together to make a pretty decent app (especially with the help of buzztouch!). I love the ability to have unique bits of information at my fingertips, at all times, which is what I find compelling about apps featuring offline content.

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10/30/12 02:49 AM (7 years ago)
With websites, it's hard to make something unique to it. There are millions of sites and many are extremely good and can hardly be improved on.
However, with apps, there are many, but not as many as websites, so you can really make something unique to it.
 
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12/04/12 08:38 PM (7 years ago)
Annandale, you're spot on for me! I strongly believe the future is mobile and will be driven by internet connected devices (phones, lights, toys... you name it!).

I've made websites for years, know bits and pieces of different types of code, can manage servers and do a bit of graphic design. A tool like this allows for all this to be brought together. It also helps me enhance my these skills and learn to code a bit more (in my case Xcode).

And its surprising how few business have apps and need someone to make them one! The way website were years ago!

Cheers!
 
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02/19/13 12:09 PM (6 years ago)
I thought that web is dead, but it is not completely true. Nevertheless it does not seem to be thrilling to go through websites or try to make money on websites or simply create something new and beautiful. The challenge and the opportunity is in mobile devices. Who knows how long is it goint to take until this business gets to the same situation like websites today.
Susan is true that you have to learn about web to be able to produce an app... I also never wanted to invest my time to learn html, and today I installed Komodo and learn to code html to make my solution run. Look how much the app world has in common with the web world, because the web seems to be the parent of the app, it is the history.

Cheers!

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02/20/13 10:03 AM (6 years ago)
The web is far from dead. The web is used far more than apps (I'm sorry to say) and will remain that way for a very long time.

Mobile is the way that technology is going around, but there is a limit. And that limit is the screen size. Do you really want to do all your work on an iPhone?

But the iPad has stepped in, and that's where I think that technology is going. I can't see the iPhone working out to be a day-to-day thing to do intense stuff on.

The advantage the web has is that it's everywhere! The web will never be dead. What are you viewing this post on? The web...

But don't take me wrong. Apps are a way forward as of now. Who knows what will happen in 10 or 20 or 30 years time.
 
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02/25/13 02:44 PM (6 years ago)
Agree with Annandale, web will not go away might change its shape and usability eg replacement of keyboard, mouse and smart PCs etc. But apps are another era and ride to catch now.

Apps need to develop and i think this will be future of web. BT is offering good solution if they can offer kind of template based apps.(just like websites templates). Hope some one can work on this.
 
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02/26/13 11:54 AM (6 years ago)
After seeing some of the success stories revolving around app-only businesses, it is apparent people are gravitating towards mobile, and that it may be more viable for a developer to invest in learning it. Traditional websites also have soo much in common with apps, especially if you use HTML5 primarily. Yes the web is everywhere, in addition to all the devices running mobile OS that take advantage of app stores. Mozilla recently announced a mobile Firefox OS with its own app store.
 
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Wow, Pavan! You are an Android guru!

Welcome to BuzzTouch. Hopefully, you will stay and get excited in creating plugins for the Android apps.

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05/17/13 09:30 PM (6 years ago)
No joke! Not sure why you have that 'aspiring' label next to your name - it should read 'veteran developer'! :) Can't wait to see what you come up with.
 
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Hi guys, I have to admit that I'm at the other end of the stick here. Meaning I'm a novice compared to you guys on this particular forum. In saying that, you're also the right bunch to ask if there's any coin to make in the app world. I'm a self-employed builder, but have registered here for over 12 months. Allowing time to learn how build an app has been a struggle. If its worth it, then maybe I can sacrifice some of my time and give it a go. Please advise.
 
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Hi guys, I have to admit that I'm at the other end of the stick here. Meaning I'm a novice compared to you guys on this particular forum. In saying that, you're also the right bunch to ask if there's any coin to make in the app world. I'm a self-employed builder, but have registered here for over 12 months. Allowing time to learn how build an app has been a struggle. If its worth it, then maybe I can sacrifice some of my time and give it a go. Please advise.
 
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07/14/13 02:53 PM (6 years ago)
Hello NiuePrince,

Try something. Start out small. Make it be something that is the simplest thing you want for yourself. Then add on the next feature.

These sound like simple abstract words. Yet, for the person who goes through that process ends up being a confident one. Why? Because they have fallen down multiple times on that journey and learned a bit along the way.

Let us help you. But first we need more specifics. What in particular is your current challenge?

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07/14/13 03:03 PM (6 years ago)
Allowing time to learn the basics, as I said i'm a novice. Cheers Niraj, much appreciated.
 
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07/14/13 03:09 PM (6 years ago)
Allowing time to learn the basics, as I said i'm a novice. Cheers Niraj, much appreciated.
 
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Allowing time to learn the basics, as I said i'm a novice. Cheers Niraj, much appreciated.
 
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07/14/13 03:14 PM (6 years ago)
By refreshing the page, you are duplicating your previous posts.
 
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Roger that, sorry.
 
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07/14/13 03:31 PM (6 years ago)
It's alright, just be aware that this happens. I've done that many times before as well!
 
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07/14/13 09:31 PM (6 years ago)
You need to have a strategy to make money making apps. There are some people on the forum who do this for a living. But I think most are doing it on the side. I would recommend making your first app as a hobby app to learn the ropes. Then you can use your first app as a portfolio item to start selling to clients. I recommend doing it part-time to start.
 
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07/28/13 03:43 AM (6 years ago)
Cheers Susan, will do that =:-D
 
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Whilst learning how to build an app, I'm also reading a lot of articles about the industry, and came across an article about a survey that found figures in favour of apple apps, as the most downloaded paid apps.

Could that be the way forward?
 
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08/06/13 09:08 PM (6 years ago)
iOS apps definitely pay more on average than Android apps, but that doesn't mean count Android out altogether. You need a strategy first: Are you making an app for a client or for yourself? If for a client, they are paying you for the work, and thus Android pays money. (You can charge more if you are making for both platforms compared to only one). If for yourself, will it be a paid app or free with ads? If free with ads, Android will pay because people will still watch ads regardless of the platform. If paid, will it be in-app purchases or pay to download? How much extra work will it be to make it for both platforms compared to just one? (On Buzztouch, it's a lot easier to make for both platforms). And finally, what is your time worth? If it takes you 2-3 hours to make the android version of your app, but you make $100 off of it over the next year? (Seems conservative for many apps), is that worth it? That's still at least $33/hr, pretty good by normal job standards.
 
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Wow, I feel like i should pay you for that piece of information alone. Cheers bro. I have a job in a different field altogether, so it'll just be a hobby at this stage. I do see it as a long term career, so I'm keen to learn both platforms. The other reason why I asked that question is that my Toshiba laptop is too old and can't run the Android platform. So instead of purchasing a device that'll allow me to build android apps only, maybe an apple product (mac book air) is the logical and the only choice?
 
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In my opinion, Apple is the only choice for app development, web editing, photo adjusting, movie making, graphics and pretty much everything creative.

Microsoft Windows was designed for the office, but even Macs do that job better these days. For example you can get Microsoft office for mac.

My straight suggestion is to avoid the MacBook Air. The minimum price one has an 11" display, that is so tiny. And once you look at 13", it is the same price as the much more powerful MacBook Pro. If that's starting to get out of budget range (Apple is expensive), look around for a refurbished one, or second hand. Amazon have some great deals for MacBook Pros. A mac second hand is not much to worry about, unlike PCs. There's no need to go retina, but if you can afford one, it's worth it. It uses flash drives which means that everything is around double the speed to load, but the standard MacBook Pro is very quick.

If you're looking for desktop, nothing matches the iMac. Maybe look for one around 2011 when buying second hand. It's thicker than the new ultra-thin ones, but has just as much power.

Apple are expensive, but as I stated above, you can use them for everything. The operating system will be different, but it's so easy to use that you'll know all the tricks in a month.
 
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08/07/13 05:54 AM (6 years ago)
Don't forget the Mac mini - if you don't need it to be portable, it's a cheap way to go.
 
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I can't thank you enough man, and I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I have done some research, and I'm keen on a macbook pro for now, and maybe an imac later. Of all the features of an Apple MacBook Pro - 2.3GHz QC 4GB 500GB DVD±RW 15", it doesn't have a dedicated graphics memory, or switchable graphics. Are these important?
 
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I suspect the graphics processor will matter if you do a lot of video editing.

Otherwise, stick with the one that you can afford. :-)

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roger that lol
cheers bro
 
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Yeah - I have a 2009 Macbook Pro and it does app development just fine. Even does video editing fine, though I don't do that for a profession. Would be nice to upgrade to a newer, faster machine at some point though.
 
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I love designing websites...at least when I felt I could do it without knowing a load of code. Nowadays it seems that you need to code for almost anything creative.

I am willing to learn!!!

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I have the standard Mid 2012 Macbook Pro and it develops fine, although it is 4gb ram, it is amazing!
 
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I keep making my point that RAM isn't too important. It's just the capacity of which the computer can run to. If you're not hitting the RAM limit, upgrading will marginally speed things up.

Put it this way, the top speed of a car is not very relavant, but the 0-60mph time is much more important.

So the key is to improve the 0-60 speed on a computer. In computer terms, this is called SSD. Getting an SSD hard drive is the single best thing you can do to a computer. It will speed it up by at least 4x, and probably more.

Because SSD is getting much cheaper than it was, I made the upgrade recently instead of improving the RAM, and I haven't looked back. The speed of SSD is astonishing. Even for an already fast computer, an SSD is going to surprise you. That's why the new MacBooks are all SSD, because Apple knows it brings their new computers to an entire new level. Processors and RAM is one thing, but SSD is another.
 
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In the last year, I upgraded my computer to a 15" Retina MBP. I had to make the choice - do I want to have last year's model with the slower (non-PCI) SSD drive but with 8gb of ram and 4 cores, or the current year's model with the faster (PCI) SSD but only 4gb of ram and 2 cores. I chose last year's model, figuring I needed the extra cores and ram more than a faster hard drive. I'm still happy with that decision. If I could've gotten the current year's model with 8gb of ram for the same price, then it would be harder - is the faster harddrive worth half as many cores?

When doing development, I've learned you definitely need power - ram and cores and hard disk speed. All three have their advantages, and each comes at a cost. It's not as easy as it used to be 20 years ago to figure out what specs were the best to invest in.

But, I can say this - Eclipse fires up in no time for me now, compared to that old 2009 model!
 

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