Hi All, I named the last forum post imcorrectly, so I am posting my question again. Is it possible to move a BT2.0 app from Buzztouch.com to my own BT server? Thanks, Jake

Yes & No There's no way to export a Buzztouch.com app to Self Hosted. But, you can copy the Buzztouch.com App's Config data and use it in your self hosted app. Some modifications to the Config data well be required. Fred

Do you have a guide? Is it possible for you to help me? Thanks, Jake

Copy Config file from Buzztouch.com control panel and paste into BT_config.txt file in source code. Remove the reportToCloudURL & the "dataURL": This will take app offline. If you've used individual screen data URLs you can leave "as is" (app will draw from both Control Panels) Or duplicate the screen in the new control panel. And grab the appropriate JSON data and replace the data in the Config file. This will take those screens Online. If you replace the reportToCloudURL & the "dataURL": instead of removing them you can have a Online app. Just use the reportToCloudURL from the self hosted panel and a Secondary Online Config file for the "dataURL": There's not yet a known method to upload the Config file JSON data to a new control panel. Fred

So, how would I pull the Report to Cloud URL data off of Buzztouch.com?

You dont pull them, you replace them. Open up the Config file and take a look. Fred

But, what is the Cloud URL?

Keep in mind, Jake, that with this method, you won't be able to make changes to the app in your control panel. If you add any screens, you'll have to copy-paste config data for those screens into the configuration data file for your app. There is no way to import your current screens into the self-hosted server for management of those screens in your control panel. That's very important to understand before you head down this road. Mark

So then is V2.0 like 1.4 and 1.5, when BT2.1 comes out, I will have to rebuild all of my apps?

There wont be a BTv2.1, that's why BTv1.5 was left behind, "too stop the insanity of BTv1.4, BTv1.5, BTv1.6, . . ." Fred

So, would it be possible to replace the BT_config file on my BT_server with the one from the Buzztouch.com server. and do the same for the Cloud Data URL?

No. You won't have to build your app again in a BT v2.x server. There may be a v2.1, but it likely won't require you to rebuild your apps. The move from BT v1.x to BT2.x was a major revision, and is the framework for buzztouch going forward. Mark

The reportToClourdURL is what tells the app that there is a config file update. Fred

So where are the individual screen data URLs. For example, where is the url that would tell the app what text to display in the Custom HTML/Text Plugin?

With respect to your question on replacing the BT_Config file, I don't think you can just do that. Remember that there is a whole database structure in your BT Server behind each app. If it were as simple as replacing the config file, it'd have already been documented in a video by me! ;-) Short answer here is that there is no way to migrate an app from buzztouch.com to your self-hosted server AND be able to control that app in your control panel. Mark

So, would it be possible to replace the BT_config file on my BT_server with the one from the Buzztouch.com server No, because the JSON data is not on the Server. . and do the same for the Cloud Data URL? the reportToCloudURL from the self hosted server can be used to tell the app to update. But the Online dataURL will need to point to a secondary Config file that you edit. Fred

I had an idea...to obtain the folder of my app from buzztouch that may reside in the file structure localhost/files/applications/YOUR-APP-ID-NUMBER. Then place this folder in my BT_servers .../files/applications/ folder. Would this work? Jake

Give it a try and see what happens! It's all experimental at this point. But don't forget about the database and all that it contains. Mark

"AND be able to control that app in your control panel." That 's a matter of interpertation. You can "Control" when to update. You can recreate just a few screens and use the JSON data in the new edited app. But you can't import all of the JSON data (yet). Fred

Do you think that it will ever be able to be done easily?

Certainly you can use the contents of the file, be sure to replace the other core JSON data, but this still wont put the JSON data in the control panel. Fred

I think it's pretty clear what I meant by control the app. Eventually the guys at buzztouch will come up with a migration scheme. But they're focused on things like getting plugin equivalency between v1.5 and v2.0, and getting the Plugin Market going. Both high priority, in my book! Mark

But there has to be a way...is Buzztouch.com hosted on a BT_server?

Yes. The same software that runs your self-hosted BT Server is the same software that buzztouch.com runs (plus or minus a few tweaks). There is a way...it's just not been developed yet! Mark

Take some time to peruse the database attached to your self-hosted BT server, and you'll understand why this is more complicated than it appears. Mark

Do you think they will announce this feature when it becomes available?

Absolutely. But I wouldn't count on it before the end of the year, judging by the other things they are working on.

But with the plugin market, will you be able to upload BuzzTouch Mods plugins to a buzztouch.com account?

I understand what you meant, but technically it's not correct withour a bit of interpertation. Yes, you can "Control" but what you control is limited. Fred

But, if all web sites are files...and BT is a web-based app development...shouldn't all of the app files reside on some computer/server, and if you transfer the files to another machine, and modify the URLs, that the app should show up under another control panel?

I think buzztouchMods will do thar, but I would like for them to announce that. Fred

I might be mistaken...but wasn't this part of the initial plan of BT2.0?

It's not that difficult from a technology perspective, but from a logistics perspective I'm sure it is a nightmare. Fred

But is it possible to download the files from BTs servers?

Yes, but think of the possible security problems if they gave us access before the techniqe was perfected. Fred

But if we could find a way through the BT_config.txt file, we could upload our apps to our BT_servers. So does the BT_config.txt file store the URLs to the data behind plugins like Custom HTML/Text

It does. Fred

So, is it possible to upload this file to our own PHPmyAdmin servers?

Now is it possible to upload the Config file Yes, but how to is the question. Fred

Where is it stored in BT_server?

Hey Jake, This might of interest to you: https://www.buzztouchmods.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=8 Cheers, David buzztouchmods.com

@MrDavid: Does your service offer migration of apps to the new BT Server? Thanks, Jake

Hi Jake, Currently no, you will have to re-create your app on your new server. Cheers, David buzztouchmods.com

Also, have you had any problems saving changes to menu items in V2.0?

No problems like that :) Cheers, David buzztouchmods.com