In future plans of BT, can BT be a platform like Kony Studio (http://www.kony.com) as well as the cloud portion?

Kony is web apps. I don't want web apps. And if you do want web apps, you can use the HTMLDoc plugin and you can build as many as you want. "Cloud" is a fancy name for 'stored and served somewhere else'. When you ask for the 'cloud' portion, what you're saying is you want the ability to store your app data elsewhere, which is inherent in BT capabilities. Have you looked at Kony's pricing? Ouch. I for one, am completely happy with the current direction BT is taking. Cheers! -- Smug

Kony is a platform that makes Web, Hybrid, and Native apps. If you really take a look at what Kony does, you'll see that it also deploys to many different types of platforms and operating systems. I wasn't trying to bash BT at all. On the contrary, I was just saying to have more features like them which is a Multi-Platform. I was just trying to expand BT's horizons a little more (helping). Maybe merge or use the same kind of concepts to intergrate into BT.

I didn't think you were bashing BT. :) But I still haven't seen anything on Kony that perks up my ears. I can see it deploys to other OS's. But again, they're web apps. Cheers! -- Smug

It's a single based code (JavaScript) that can be converted into native code as well

I had a good look at them when one of their guys started following me on Twitter - he unfollowed me today - don't see anything that compels me to investigate more. Web apps, bleh.

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@CSSZiegler... much better. These guys do have a very valid point though. Kony do web apps, that can be ported over to native apps. Although they call them 'native apps', they actually mean linking to their web app. You can often tell when a web app makes it onto the app store. It's slow, laggy and isn't responsive to the user. All in all, a little bit of a disaster. As my good friends say, 'Cloud' just means stored on a server. With that in mind, every storage site is the 'cloud'. This means that very server is a 'cloud'. All it is, is a little bit of marketing from those tech giants to try to dumb down technology. Buzztouch hosts the JSON of your app on the 'cloud'. With this in mind, it does not matter whether the 'cloud' is Dropbox, Google Drive, or even better your own server. I always use my server for storing any online content, such as images, because I can guarantee it will be fast and I am familiar with it, however Dropbox will be just the same with slower speeds. Even better is to, of course, store the content offline. This means content is limited to the loading speed of the hard drive, which is several thousand times quicker than downloading it from the web. This means that with apps, you are limited to the speed of the device, not the internet speed. You cannot beat offline speed, even if the internet is super-quick. I hope I have given a lot of info here. The basic point is that the 'cloud' is nothing more than your content on someone else's server, and you'd much better to host offline if possible.

The Kony way can be 1/2-way accomplished with BuzzTouch. The BuzzTouch cloud can be used to store HTML, JS and CSS files. One would have to use Dreamweaver to stitch together jQuery plugins as user interface components. However, the BT JSON to jQuery connection is not readily available. Those are the gaps that Kony already has in place and it is ready-to-use. Having said all of that, I still prefer the BuzzTouch methodology. At times I do wish a single code base could address all the platforms in a uniform way. It would be nice for the Android brethren to catch up to the iOS plugins on BuzzTouch. A bonus would be for Windows Mobile to also be brought onto the BuzzTouch platform. -- Niraj

Windoze. We spoke with them. Looked at them providing a dev to transfer plugins over. Not dead but too much for us. Agree with your sentiment though. No other way than BT! First and still best.

Ok guys. You convinced me!

Hmmm, I've been also looking at Kony vs. BT. Kony is classified as a MEAP, along with Antennae, Worklight, etc. These are often used as Enterprise apps, where there is some significant data entry, and often the need for offline data entry. These are frequently CRM, ERP, or other "line of business" mobile apps. BT has mainly been a customer-facing "content" app. It just doesn't have a lot of provisions for connections to back end enterprise data (except for a couple interesting plugins that have appeared, and of course the ability to embed jQuery mobile apps, which can be data entry apps). I'm sure other BT developers have done all kinds of interesting enterprise work though. One thing about BT that is so unique is the way it uses JSON files to drive everything. The potential to use this in a MEAP-type application is enticing. Without getting too speculative, there is a lot of excitement about enterprise apps that are contextual and intelligent, and BT's architecture is really well suited to those concepts. Anyway, I'm always happy to chat about this kind of stuff.

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I agree ThomasB -- the Mobile Enterprise is a niche waiting to be solved. With enough focus by a BuzzTouch Partner, it can reap many a reward. Be aware of the Big Enterprise however. They want fewer choices. They prefer a one-stop provides-many type of vendor. That means the field gets reduced down to the MEAP-MAMP vendors for the Big Enterprise. Indeed, for innovators such as BT, it's a blue ocean waiting to be consumed. An opportunity under that umbrella exists for the smaller vendors, as long as they don't get greedy. Good conversation! -- Niraj

Thanks Niraj

Wait uhm clarification please, if you build a mobile responsive or twitter bootstrap site (hosted .com), using Dreamweaver or hand coding "web app/site" with HTML5, CSS3, jquery. Then if you are using the same coding with the HTML/or custom plugin from the marketplace to reconstruct website elements from a .com, how are these not hybrids as well? RSS feeds pull from an external source like a website, correct and are not generated daily from a Native App, I guess they could if you are embedding the wordpress or joomla plugin available in bt pluginmarket, again technologies not something you use Native code to recreate wordpress or any cms. Aren't you just recreating a web browser within the native app, as a 'web app' needs the native browser to launch? granted in a native app you have access to launching device specific hardware like the camera, gps, native apps live on the device, with or without connection. but if a native app is constructed to pull data from rss feed or any type of database or custom url like linked to flickr, facebook, twitter, etc, is that still a native app or a hybrid of native and web? BT has its strong and weak points, but I'm not getting the ehh on 'web apps' for developers like me it's mission critical to be able to provide multiplatform deployment from a single code base. The competition is growing as technologies are becoming more affordable, because of these cloud based DIY sites competing with each other. For those that know me, my initial 40 apps I started building in v2.1.9 in November when I joined, I am having to build straight in xcode5, I can't make my adjusted deadlines because I don't have that luxury of waiting as Sandeep said till the end of Jan 2014 for the new core to be stable enough for my demanding clients. I use this article to discuss the differences between the 'apps' when my clients with a little knowledge or have shopped other app developers before. http://www.nngroup.com/articles/mobile-native-apps/ -- Ed

"It would be nice for the Android brethren to catch up to the iOS plugins on BuzzTouch..." I agree with you @Niraj Shah.